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SQL Server Forum / Other Technologies / Clustering / September 2005

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SQL2000 Cluster and virus software

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MichaelW - 19 Sep 2005 23:19 GMT
Microsoft’s SQL Server 2000 Failover Clustering doc states the following
under miscellaneous configuration issues:

“Disable or do not install antivirus software on your cluster” and then
gives a link to that KB article.

The KB article explains this as the reason why you might disable it:

Most antivirus software uses filter drivers (device drivers) that work in
conjunction with a service to scan for viruses. These filter drivers reside
above the file system recognizer and scan files as they are opened and closed
on a local hard disk. Antivirus software may not understand the shared disk
model and may not properly allow for failover.

The KB also says this:

Warning This workaround may make your computer or your network more
vulnerable to attack by malicious users or by malicious software such as
viruses. We do not recommend this workaround but are providing this
information so that you can implement this workaround at your own discretion.
Use this workaround at your own risk.

So does Microsoft recommend using virus software or not, they did both in
the clustering doc / KB.

Thanks!
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP] - 20 Sep 2005 01:39 GMT
You should able to use antivirus software, just exclude the MSCS, MSDTC, and
SQL data directories.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training

> Microsoft’s SQL Server 2000 Failover Clustering doc states the following
> under miscellaneous configuration issues:
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>
> Thanks!
Anthony Thomas - 20 Sep 2005 02:05 GMT
Microsoft also recommends that you analyze the threat of a particular
installation.  For most DBMS installations, the server should reside in a
secured environment with no file shares.  Properly locked down, the system
would be at low risk for virus attacks.  As a filter driver, there is a
performance penalty by having what is known as Active Scanning running on
the system.

Although Microsoft does not come right out and say it, it does discourage AV
on a dedicated and secured DBMS installation.  We have worked with our
server administrators in conjuction with the AV vendor to properly secure
such installations and leave this sort of technology on more vunerable
systems like file servers and communication components.

INF: Consideration for a virus scanner on a computer that is running SQL
Server 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;309422

Sincerely,

Anthony Thomas

You should able to use antivirus software, just exclude the MSCS, MSDTC, and
SQL data directories.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training

> Microsoft’s SQL Server 2000 Failover Clustering doc states the following
> under miscellaneous configuration issues:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Thanks!
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP] - 20 Sep 2005 02:42 GMT
I hear you, I really do, its just that some places are required to have AV
on every machine.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training

> Microsoft also recommends that you analyze the threat of a particular
> installation.  For most DBMS installations, the server should reside in a
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>> Thanks!
Anthony Thomas - 20 Sep 2005 06:06 GMT
Then as the KB article explains, make sure you exclude the appropriate files
and best of luck.  But then again, having AV on every machine does not
necessarily mean running all components.  You could run the Virus Sweep
routinely, excluding the appropriate files, but leave the Active Scanning
filter driver off in situations like you describe.

Sincerely,

Anthony Thomas

I hear you, I really do, its just that some places are required to have AV
on every machine.

Cheers,

Rod

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training

> Microsoft also recommends that you analyze the threat of a particular
> installation.  For most DBMS installations, the server should reside in a
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>> Thanks!
Geoff N. Hiten - 20 Sep 2005 15:22 GMT
The problem is where the AV driver interferes with the Cluster software,
preventing the drives from coming online.  Even if you exclude the drive
from scanning, AV software can mess up the device driver.  Most AV solutions
don't do this anymore, but it was a real problem in the earlier days of
clustering.

Of course, on all SQL installations, you should exclude the data and log
files/folders AND any backup locations, including remote file shares.  I
have had a very bad experience with AV scans on backup files.

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Microsoft SQL Server MVP

> Then as the KB article explains, make sure you exclude the appropriate
> files
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