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SQL Server Forum / Other Technologies / Clustering / July 2006

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Robert Abela - 25 Jul 2006 08:59 GMT
Hi,

I currently have 2 separate SQL Servers under the same domain, running
different databases each and having different hardware.

We are getting an SAN to centralize the data.  If i move the data of both
SQL Servers to the SAN then can i configure both sql's to be as one cluster?

Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Tom Moreau - 25 Jul 2006 11:58 GMT
You would have to create a cluster and then either detach the DB's and
reattach them, or take backups of the DB's and restore them onto the new
cluster.

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Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada

Hi,

I currently have 2 separate SQL Servers under the same domain, running
different databases each and having different hardware.

We are getting an SAN to centralize the data.  If i move the data of both
SQL Servers to the SAN then can i configure both sql's to be as one cluster?

Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Robert Abela - 25 Jul 2006 12:48 GMT
Thanks Tom for your quick reply.

Therefore a cluster (if i am not mistaken) can be of different hardware
right? i.e. there is no need that physically they are identical hardware
right?

> You would have to create a cluster and then either detach the DB's and
> reattach them, or take backups of the DB's and restore them onto the new
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>
> Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Michael Epprecht [MSFT] - 25 Jul 2006 13:50 GMT
Hi

Have a look at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327518/ on the support policy
for hardware.

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> Thanks Tom for your quick reply.
>
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>> Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Tom Moreau - 25 Jul 2006 13:52 GMT
Actually, dissimilar nodes are not supported.  Indeed, you can't cluster
just anything - even if they are identical.  They must be in the Windows
Catalog *for clustering*.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/catalog/server/default.aspx?subID=22&xslt=globa
lsearch&qu=cluster&scope=1


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Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada

Thanks Tom for your quick reply.

Therefore a cluster (if i am not mistaken) can be of different hardware
right? i.e. there is no need that physically they are identical hardware
right?

> You would have to create a cluster and then either detach the DB's and
> reattach them, or take backups of the DB's and restore them onto the new
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Geoff N. Hiten - 25 Jul 2006 22:22 GMT
And they must be purchased as a certified cluster solution.  Hardware
sometimes requires different configuration settings when used in a cluster
vs. when used in a stand-alone configuration.

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Microsoft SQL Server MVP

> Actually, dissimilar nodes are not supported.  Indeed, you can't cluster
> just anything - even if they are identical.  They must be in the Windows
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
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>> Are there any articles or so on this procedure please?
Russ Kaufmann [MVP] - 26 Jul 2006 18:24 GMT
> Actually, dissimilar nodes are not supported.  Indeed, you can't cluster
> just anything - even if they are identical.  They must be in the Windows
> Catalog *for clustering*.

Not true. You can cluster dissimilar systems. You can cluster hardware that
is not listed in the Windows Catalog. However, there are support issues and
already expressed by Michael. I strongly recommend that you purchase
clustering solutions only from the Windows Catalog.

The question really is one of whether you should do something, and if you
think about the entire purpose of high availability, it should be apparent
that you want to do it the right way and the right way only.

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Russ Kaufmann
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

Tom Moreau - 27 Jul 2006 02:58 GMT
That's what I meant.  A client forced me to put together a cluster with
unsupported hardware.  Then we went into production.  Then, it went BOOM.
That's probably the biggest "I told you so" in my career.

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Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON   Canada
.

> Actually, dissimilar nodes are not supported.  Indeed, you can't cluster
> just anything - even if they are identical.  They must be in the Windows
> Catalog *for clustering*.

Not true. You can cluster dissimilar systems. You can cluster hardware that
is not listed in the Windows Catalog. However, there are support issues and
already expressed by Michael. I strongly recommend that you purchase
clustering solutions only from the Windows Catalog.

The question really is one of whether you should do something, and if you
think about the entire purpose of high availability, it should be apparent
that you want to do it the right way and the right way only.

Signature

Russ Kaufmann
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
ClusterHelp.com, a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Web http://www.clusterhelp.com
Blog http://msmvps.com/clusterhelp

 
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