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SQL Server Forum / General / Data Warehousing / March 2006

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Best practices for reporting: Replicated servers + data warehouse server??

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Sean Aitken - 13 Feb 2006 19:16 GMT
Good afternoon,

Lately there has been discussion of what the best practice would be for
enterprise reporting needs. Specifically, we currently have online OLTP
servers for our business apps, as well as a data warehouse server.

A member of our team has suggested that we create a new server farm (or
server) for real time reporting to alleviate the real time reporting
burden off the production servers.

I was looking for any advice or pointers to design a topology that can
support our current real time systems as well as data warehousing
needs, while still minimizing the burden of reporting against our live
production servers.

The mention of replication has come to mind, but I'm not completely
sold on attempting to replicate our production data for the "heck of
it"...

Any thoughts?

Best regards,
-Sean
MC - 14 Feb 2006 08:03 GMT
Can you specify requirements for the reporting data? What would be the
maximum latency involved? I assume that reporting from dw isnt good enough
beacause of the latency...

MC

> Good afternoon,
>
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> Best regards,
> -Sean
Sean Aitken - 14 Feb 2006 15:33 GMT
Good morning MC,

There aren't any real specific requirements at this time. But, we do
have the need to ensure that real time reporting doesn't impact
production systems. Apparently, there are some applications that have
caused problems against performance of real time systems with some
reports.

I'm more of less just looking for some existing topology patterns that
have been proven to satisfy the needs of the business. Our organization
has about 2000 employees all over the world, and we have many systems
in place, SQL Server as well as Oracle.

My personal feeling is that any real time reporting be designed with
performance in mind and anything else should pull from the data
warehouse, with the granularity as designed into the reporting and
model requirements.

I wish I had a good case example, but my main motivation for
approaching this issue is that another developer on our team made a
proposal to actuall replicate the entire prod environment for all real
time reporting. I'm having a hard time buying into that idea.

Thanks for any insight!
Cheers!

-Sean
Peter Nolan - 14 Feb 2006 18:08 GMT
Hi Sean,
sure......there are some useful books to read on my beginners page.
http://www.peternolan.com/Beginners/tabid/140/Default.aspx

The best book on architecture is the Corporate Information Factory book
by Bill et al.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471399612/qid=1035458099/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2
_3/103-5700697-6194236


Though for some reason Amazons links are not working at the moment.

CIF is a well defined and well articulated architecture for designers
to take into consideration when building end to end Information
Infrastructure for sizable companies. Well worth reading...

Peter
Sean Aitken - 15 Feb 2006 13:19 GMT
Thank you very much Peter!
I'll be checking them out today!

Cheers!
-Sean
ChrisR - 16 Feb 2006 23:54 GMT
I have used built in SQL replication to replicate data at a few companies. I
think its a great solution.

> Good afternoon,
>
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> Best regards,
> -Sean
Sean Aitken - 17 Feb 2006 13:26 GMT
Was this for handling reporting needs?...  Or in general. Personally, i
think replication is a fine technology that works well (as long as you
don't do something to break the schema or replication). But, I'm
seeking advice from a corporate warehousing perspective.

Also, I was hoping for some good online reference that wouldn't require
me to pony up $50. :)  Maybe I can convince my employer..

Cheers!
-Sean
ChrisR - 19 Feb 2006 07:05 GMT
For reporting.

> Was this for handling reporting needs?...  Or in general. Personally, i
> think replication is a fine technology that works well (as long as you
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> Cheers!
> -Sean
Peter Nolan - 01 Mar 2006 16:27 GMT
Hi Sean,
lots of sites publish good materials...if you register on bill inmons
site http://www.inmoncif.com/home/ you can download a lot of
freebies....but you can hardly complain about the fact that for about
USD500 you can now buy 8-10 very good books on BI as a small reference
library.....that's about half a day of a junior consultants time from
any sizable consulting company....very, very, very cheap... ;-)

Peter
Sean Aitken - 15 Mar 2006 15:57 GMT
Very true. very true indeed. Thanks for the link, btw!  Unfortunately,
I don't have the resources to personally dive into the investment..  I
think I can convince my employer though. :)  My interest in
datawarehousing and this kind of enterprise design is passive, but I am
very interested in learning as much as I can to help our team.

Again, thank you!!
 
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