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Keith Sirmons - 24 Apr 2006 17:24 GMT
Howdy,

We have a SQL 2005 std server running on Windows 2003.  
We are having an issue where it looks like the full text service is locking
up.  In the activity monitor we will start to see processes waiting on
MSSEARCH.  The processes will continue to wait until I stop the SQL Server
FullText Search Service.  

The service does not stop nicely either.  When you attempt to stop it, it
will hang and say it is stopping.  This will stay in the stopping state until
I restart the sql server process its self, or kill the msftesql.exe process
manually.  

I have seen the activity monitor processes hang for our VB 6 app, doing a
database backup through a maintenance plan, and dropping old databases.

In the error log, I see several “Error: 3633, Severity: 16, State: 1”
messages as well as “The operating system returned the error ‘32(The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.)’ while
attempting ‘CreateFile’ on ‘d:\mssql\ftdata\radiology0000\sql.hdr’ at
‘fulltext.cpp’(529).

I am new to supporting sql server and have had a hard time finding
information about this error on the internet.

Thank you for any help you can provide.
Keith Sirmons
Hilary Cotter - 24 Apr 2006 18:33 GMT
Upgrade to SP1. Are you only getting the message from SQL.HDR when you dump
your transaction logs?

Regarding the hanging - exactly where is it hanging? Does it hang during the
population process or at other times?

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> Thank you for any help you can provide.
> Keith Sirmons
Keith Sirmons - 24 Apr 2006 20:07 GMT
Hilary,

Windows is already at SP1.  Has a SP been released for SQL 2005 yet? My sql
version is 9.0.1399

The time stamps for the sql.hdr errors do look to correlate with the
transaction log backups.  

EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_sqlmaint N'-PlanID
5C950084-E7F8-436E-AD81-3FCBE7CD910E -WriteHistory  -VrfyBackup -BkUpMedia
DISK -BkUpLog  -UseDefDir  -BkExt "TRN"'

How can I tell where it is hanging?  When I start the FullText service I can
normally stop it with out any problems after just a few minutes, but if I
wait too long, I will not be able to stop the service without killing the
msftesql.exe process.

Thank you,
Keith

> Upgrade to SP1. Are you only getting the message from SQL.HDR when you dump
> your transaction logs?
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> > Thank you for any help you can provide.
> > Keith Sirmons
Hilary Cotter - 29 Apr 2006 16:32 GMT
Yes, SP 1 for SQL Server has been released.

Its hard to say, I would capture everything using profiler and then run the
statements individually through query analyzer.

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> Hilary,
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>> > Thank you for any help you can provide.
>> > Keith Sirmons
Keith Sirmons - 01 May 2006 04:45 GMT
Thank you,

Installing SP1 for sql did fix our issues.  Thank you for your help.

Keith

> Yes, SP 1 for SQL Server has been released.
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Crystal Manson - 23 Aug 2006 00:51 GMT
I am also experiencing this issue.  Unfortunately my server is already
on SP1 (windows and sql).  Has any one experienced this issue and it
wasn't fixed by SP1?  Also, my server is a cluster.  Could that be
causing it?
Hilary Cotter - 23 Aug 2006 12:57 GMT
Its unlikely that the cluster is causing the problem. You might want to set
the resource level to something smaller than 3, try sp_fulltext_service
'resource_level',2

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>I am also experiencing this issue.  Unfortunately my server is already
> on SP1 (windows and sql).  Has any one experienced this issue and it
> wasn't fixed by SP1?  Also, my server is a cluster.  Could that be
> causing it?
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Crystal Manson - 24 Aug 2006 03:32 GMT
Do you mean:

sp_fulltext_service 'resource_usage',2

I do not see resource_level as an option.
Hilary Cotter - 24 Aug 2006 10:34 GMT
Exactly, my mistake.

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